Some Indians living in Karachi were willing to work with the Lashkar-e-Tayiba to carry out terror attacks in India, David Headley has said, apparently referring to underworld don Dawood Ibrahim, who is based in the port city of Pakistan.
During his five-day testimony before a 12-member jury of a Chicago court that conducted the trial of Mumbai attacks co-accused Tahawwur Rana, Headley made the reference to "some" Karachi-based Indians willing to work with LeT leader Abdur Rehman Hashim Syed aka Pasha for executing terrorist attacks inside India.
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During his five-day testimony before a 12-member jury of a Chicago court that conducted the trial of Mumbai attacks co-accused Tahawwur Rana, Headley made the reference to "some" Karachi-based Indians willing to work with LeT leader Abdur Rehman Hashim Syed aka Pasha for executing terrorist attacks inside India.
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'Karachi-based Indians were willing to carry out 26/11 attacks'
In response to a question during the testimony, Headley, a Pakistani-American LeT operative, told the court that Pasha had travelled to Karachi to meet these Indians.
It is well known that Dawood Ibrahim has been living in Karachi for quite some time now and carrying out operations against India. His presence in Karachi, is however, denied strongly by Pakistan, even though India has provided concrete evidence in this regard.
"Pasha had nationals of India who wanted to work in India," Headley said in response to a question. "Who did Pasha have?" he was asked.
It is well known that Dawood Ibrahim has been living in Karachi for quite some time now and carrying out operations against India. His presence in Karachi, is however, denied strongly by Pakistan, even though India has provided concrete evidence in this regard.
"Pasha had nationals of India who wanted to work in India," Headley said in response to a question. "Who did Pasha have?" he was asked.
"He had some Indian nationals in Karachi," Headley said. "Okay. And when you say work, what were they going to do," the attorney asked again. "Carry out attacks in India," Headley said in response.
'Kashmiri wanted me to survey Chabad houses across India'
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Headley said that after being encouraged by the success of the Mumbai terrorist attacks, Al Qaeda commander Ilyas Kashmiri wanted him to travel to India again and carry out surveillance for another set of targets, which included the National Defence College in New Delhi and Chabad houses across the country.
"He said that his leadership was very upset about the recent Israeli bombing in the Gaza Strip, which was in January of that year, and they wanted to retaliate in some way. So he wanted me to go and look at the Chabad Houses again in India," Headley said, referring to his conversation with Kashmiri after the Mumbai attacks for which he said the Al Qaeda leader was very pleased.
"He said that his leadership was very upset about the recent Israeli bombing in the Gaza Strip, which was in January of that year, and they wanted to retaliate in some way. So he wanted me to go and look at the Chabad Houses again in India," Headley said, referring to his conversation with Kashmiri after the Mumbai attacks for which he said the Al Qaeda leader was very pleased.
By leadership, he meant that the individual was the Al Qaeda number three, whom Headley identified as one "al Masri." Headley said he agreed to go back to India for further surveillance as the leadership desired.
Headley recceed Delhi, Goa, Pushar
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The list of Chabad houses for surveillance was given to him by Pasha, who also directed him to go to National Defence College in New Delhi.
"Pasha said if we were able to conduct an attack on it, we would be able to kill more brigadiers in the Indian army than had been killed in the four wars that Pakistan and India had fought previously," Headley told the court, adding that he received money for tickets, airfare and travelling expenses from Pasha.
"Pasha said if we were able to conduct an attack on it, we would be able to kill more brigadiers in the Indian army than had been killed in the four wars that Pakistan and India had fought previously," Headley told the court, adding that he received money for tickets, airfare and travelling expenses from Pasha.
Headley said that he copied and pasted this list of Chabad houses in India in a secure email, which was created for security purposes by Rana. "I thought it would be more secure if I wanted to access it in India," Headley said. "Why didn't you just keep a handwritten list on your person," the attorney asked. "So that if I was stopped and somebody found a list in my pocket, it would not seem right," he responded.
While in India, Headley said he visited New Delhi, Pushkar and Goa. He carried a camera for video surveillance at all these three places and made observations about each location.'Security at National Defence College seemed lax'
In Delhi, he said, he visited National Defence College at least three-four times and took video of the place. While one of the gates was closed most of the time, the other was open. The security at the National Defence College, he said, was lax.
"I did see a few going in and out of the place. And I noticed the guards seemed very lax," Headley said. After carrying out the surveillance work, Headley went back to Pakistan where he met Pasha and handed over the videos to him and shared his assessment of these places. "The National Defence College seemed pretty -- in my opinion, and I gave that to Pasha, that it seemed pretty easy to access that facility," he said.
"Pasha said he was definitely going to work on that," Headley said. "When he said definitely, did you observe anything about his demeanor," the attorney asked. "Yes. I thought what I got from him, that it would be in the near future," he responded.
"Did you have a sense that it was an important target," he was asked. "Yes," Headley said. "Was it important to you?" asked the attorney. "Yes", he said.
"I did see a few going in and out of the place. And I noticed the guards seemed very lax," Headley said. After carrying out the surveillance work, Headley went back to Pakistan where he met Pasha and handed over the videos to him and shared his assessment of these places. "The National Defence College seemed pretty -- in my opinion, and I gave that to Pasha, that it seemed pretty easy to access that facility," he said.
"Pasha said he was definitely going to work on that," Headley said. "When he said definitely, did you observe anything about his demeanor," the attorney asked. "Yes. I thought what I got from him, that it would be in the near future," he responded.
"Did you have a sense that it was an important target," he was asked. "Yes," Headley said. "Was it important to you?" asked the attorney. "Yes", he said.
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