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"So let us say you want to retire 10 years from now. You feel that an income of around Rs 800,000 per year should be enough for you to sail through."
"Bus.That's too low an amount."
"To earn an income of Rs 800,000 per year you would need to build a corpus of Rs 1 crore, assuming that you manage to get an interest of 8 per cent on the corpus you build. But this Rs 1 crore (Raillion) is not going to come out of thin air."
"Yeah."
"So you will have to save regularly to build that Rs 1 crore corpus," I said.
"Yes.Paisa kamane ke liye bhi paisa chahiye," she replied. "But what is all this got to do with the US government?"
"Well the logic is the same. What works for you also works for the government. The government gives a pension to people when they retire. If a certain number of people are expected to retire ten years from now, then they would have to be paid a certain amount of pension. While estimating the exact amount is difficult, estimates can be made. But what we know for sure is that money is to be saved now so that citizens can be paid pensions later."
"Yup. So what was that part about the unfunded bit?" she asked.
"If governments don't invest the right amount from now on, which a lot of them don't including the US government, they will have to pay these citizens by borrowing money later. And if pensions cannot be funded through the investments already made, they are said to be 'unfunded'."
"Hmmm."
"I was reading this interesting book Ponzi Power by Mitch Feierstein. He writes, "Using proper accounting methods...the true value of the state and municipal pension liability is at $5.2trilion. When you deduct the $1.94trillion of pension assets that have already been set aside, you get a net liability of $3.26trillion."
"These are big numbers," she said.
"Yes. Other than this the US government already has an existing debt of around $14.6trillion."
"So that's about it?"
"Feierstein also points out that the social security programme of the US government is also underfunded to the extent of $18.8trillion.
The underfunding in Medicare, the health insurance programme amounts to around $38.5 trillion. So if you add all of this up the number comes to a whopping $75.2trillion and that is what Feierstein feels the US government owes to others like governments and its own citizens.
To give you a sense of proportion, the US yearly gross domestic product (GDP) is at $15trillion. The GDP of the entire world is around $60trillion. So these are big numbers we are talking about"
"But isn't that an estimate?" she asked.
"Yes it is. But it has been drawn partly from documents of the US government. The private estimates are worse.
Economist Edward Chancellor writes in a report "One estimate of US healthcare and pension liabilities runs to 7 times the country's GDP." This estimate suggests that the US government owes more than $100trillion. There is no single precise measure of the indebtedness of the US government. But there are big numbers and there are bigger numbers."
"Ha Ha!"
"Laurence Kotlikoff of Boston University has made a lifetime study of the present value of unfunded commitments using data from the US Congressional and Budget Office. He puts the true level of US indebtedness to around $202trillion."
"Oh my god!"
"Yes."
"So what is the way out?"
"Well all these welfare schemes will have to be dramatically cut and that may not be a politically popular move. Otherwise the US debt is going to go up dramatically from its current levels."
"But I am confused. If things are so bad, why does the US dollar continue to be seen as a safe haven?"
"Well, for the simple reason that dollar is the international reserve currency, and if things become too bad the US can always print it to repay. Hence every time there is a hint of a crisis anywhere in the world more money moves to the dollar."
"But that's stupid."
"Yes it is. But remember as the economist Herbert Stein once wrote, "If something cannot go on forever, it will stop."
"When will it stop?"
"Let me end with a line from John Maynard Keyens. As he famously said"markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent!" And as the first rule of forecasting is that give them the forecast or the date, but never both!"