The Debate on the Sidelines
dharmatma (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:43 IST)
Mr Pradeep: The staging of the play "me Nathuram boltoy" is a wonderful thing happened to India now. We are curious to know exact position and thinking of the people involved in the act. Nathuram is not an eccentric as portrayed by congress Govt. Infact he was a super patriot . He killed a Superhuman (Mahatma) person of Gandhi b'coz he thought that his mother (Bharatamata) was being cut by muslims and their blackmail tactics who are invaders came from outside and destroyed the Hindu culture and the country.
sunil ganatra (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:48 IST)
Dalvi are you there?
sunil ganatra (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:48 IST)
Why you have selected Godse.Why not Bhagat singh?
Kirit (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:50 IST)
Can you tell how you got inspired to write Godse ....
Kirit (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:53 IST)
Can you tell how you got inspired to write Godse ....
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:56 IST)
Hello every1
Ramvenky (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:57 IST)
Hi is the chat in progress?
Yugpursh (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:57 IST)
Hi!
rakesh (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:58 IST)
Hellow mr. dalvi
Yugpursh (Tue Jul 21 1998 8:58 IST)
is any body there
rakesh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:0 IST)
Hello ad1 wievers
aniruddha joshi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:0 IST)
Dear Mr Dalvi, I think you have taken the right step by sticking to your stand on going ahjead with your shows. Weak brains cant reconcile to facts. Go ahead. We are with you. Any comments?
sunil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:1 IST)
What you have included in your play is actual writting of the nagthuram godse or just experts from his brother.
pinto (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:1 IST)
hi there. has the chat started. Is dalvi already there
Yugpursh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:1 IST)
Democracy is a bull-shit word! there is no democracy any where in the world.
dharmatma (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:1 IST)
Mr pradeep: we are delighted that your play has brought out a fresh debate and awakening to the truth by and for the sake of younger generation. They will see the games played by the successive congress Govts to appease the muslims instead of bearing out the diabolical designs of the muslims. They have no business of dividing the country. They should be treated just like Britishers, as foreigners (in every respect - in religion and culture) who invaded the country , ruled and destroyed. we got independence from Britishers but not from muslims.
aniruddha joshi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:3 IST)
Dear Mr Dalvi, How can I chat with you? Help!!
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:3 IST)
Mr Dalvi, while I agree that in a democracy it is necessary to voice with equal opportunity both sides of the coin, what made u protray Gandhi as a traitor in ur play. Was he not a victim of circumstances?
rakesh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:3 IST)
Hellw, I am yashomati Trivedi, why now stories of godse, instand of 1948?.
samil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:3 IST)
how were you inspired to write the play?
sunil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:3 IST)
Godse killed gandhi why not jinna who was in case responsible for the partition of our country.? (may be he was in pakisthan at that time)
pinto (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:3 IST)
Mr.Dalvi is it right to twisty facts and glorify someone in the name of artistic expression. An objective explanation seeking is something else which is no way related to simple vilification
bhaskar (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:4 IST)
Hello there, has the chat started?
patkar (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:4 IST)
hello mr dalvi this is patkar .I would like to praise you for your effort to come out boldly with a drama , an eye opener what are your reaction to its closing down
rohit (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:4 IST)
boldness is virtue. keep it up rohit
mihir (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:4 IST)
Hi there , is the chat on ??
test (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:5 IST)
Hi There
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:5 IST)
I think the muslims are being used as a vote bank which in the long run is not goin to benefit any1
pinto (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:6 IST)
Mr.Dalvi is it right to twisty facts and glorify someone in the name of artistic expression. An objective explanation seeking is something else which is no way related to simple vilification
test (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:6 IST)
Do you think Godse did a right thing?
rohit (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:6 IST)
pradeep, your comments are awaited
mihir (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:6 IST)
Hi Mr Dalvi, Just wanted yr reaction on the .. well, the reactions that u got
Yugpursh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:7 IST)
I totally agree with dharmatma!
sunil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:7 IST)
Do you think you play is for entertainment of to explain society the real mind of nathuram godse?
aniruddha joshi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:7 IST)
Hi Malini, Mr Dalvi does not seem to be responding. .What do u think is happenning?
patkar (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:7 IST)
hello bhaskar I think mr dalvi is not on the net lets see whether we can communicate
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:8 IST)
Manilni, I think Dalvi is running scared, watcha u say???
pinto (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:8 IST)
Mr.Dalvi is it right to twisty facts and glorify someone in the name of artistic expression. An objective explanation seeking is something else which is no way related to simple vilification
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:9 IST)
I dont think he has started a contreversy , He has just given a fair hearing to the other side
Yugpursh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:9 IST)
He must be dreaming about making a film in hollywood!
aniruddha joshi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:9 IST)
Mr Dalvi, After Godse.........which one ?
CoolGuy (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:9 IST)
Mr. Dalvi what do u think 'bout the future of this play in Mumbai
bhaskar (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:9 IST)
could any one explain me how to participate in this chat show, as I cannot read any of the answers to the quest. put up.
sunil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:11 IST)
Dalvi Why you selected Godse and not real freedom fighter like bhagat singh. Do you find any difference between them. Or only you like to express godse.
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:11 IST)
Abhishek, what hearing to the other side! bull shit!! When u start glorifying crazy eccentrics in the name of Namtional Interst, u'll end up with a country full of Godses (ha, probably atleast that way we can erase unemployment)
CoolGuy (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:11 IST)
Hey prople Is mr. Dalvi in the chat room
mihir (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:11 IST)
Pinto, since u seem to have a strong opinion here .. just a qn .. have u seen the play ??
Yugpursh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:11 IST)
bhaskar, you need some viagra
CoolGuy (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:12 IST)
HELLO MR> DALVI THERE?
mihir (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:12 IST)
anand, n hv u seen the play ?
ankur (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:12 IST)
is the chat on
mihir (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:12 IST)
mr dalvi, a question to you please .. have u read satanic verses ??
sweetest (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:12 IST)
why did you make this play at all ? did u not find a better subject/person
sweetest (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:12 IST)
why did you make this play at all ? did u not find a better subject/person
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
mihir, yep i hv and it is a horrible one... this pradeep dinghe is worse than a communist...
naresh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
By utilising his ideas in a write way godse would have been a great leader what do you think
aniruddha joshi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
Mr Dalvi,How do you plan to keep this excitement on for us?
CoolGuy (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
HELLO MR DALVI U THERE PLEASE REPLY>>WE R WASTING OUR TEL CALL
Nitin (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
Is the chat on!!!
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
well anand do you mean to say that giving 55 crores to a country at war with ur motherland is right???
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
Mr. Dalvi are you there?
mihir (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
yes all , the chat is on .. maybe we can wait fr some answers to come up before putting up some more questions
Venkat (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:13 IST)
Hi Pradeep, I am with you. Whatever Godse has done is a closed chapter. Why people should worry about your play? -Venkat Lolayekar (Goa)
amit duggal (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:14 IST)
Mr Dalvi, How do you view Nathu Ram Godse ? Do you think what he did was right??
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:14 IST)
no abhishek, but killing a man for the sheerest eccentricities and than glorifying it in the name of patriotism is...
ankur (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:15 IST)
why did you make GODSE hero ?
Naru Shah (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:15 IST)
Dalviji, please come out openly with your view point.There are many ways & means to create your opinion.Why you have chosen Stage (drama) for that purpose?
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:16 IST)
what I would like to know how fair is it to ban a play without even watching it??
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:16 IST)
Mr. Dalvi do you believe that the Partition of India-Pakistan was the only blunder that Gandhiji committed ??
naresh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:16 IST)
is mr pradeep dinge on the line or vanisd
Shahezadi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:16 IST)
So, Gandhiji's life was had over a paltry sum of Rs 55 crores, eh Mr Dalvi?
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:17 IST)
Mr. Dalvi do you believe that the Partition of India-Pakistan was the only blunder that Gandhiji committed ??
Rajivd (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:17 IST)
Mr. Dalvi, are you planning to continue fighting against the ban?
vora (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:17 IST)
hello mr. dalviji do u have some thing to conway our youngster of present time and make them more spritualy , mentaly, physicaly and moraly strong instade of telling him something whis is not going to help him at all
naresh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:18 IST)
MR PRADEEP WHAT KIND OF CHAT SHOW IS THIS NO REPLY FROM YOU/
Nitin (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:18 IST)
Why did you sop the play?
sunil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:18 IST)
Dalvi, I think better if you in short explain what exactly you want to say to people in your drama. Ideology of Godse. or feeling of godse or godse was right in killing gandhi or any other thing.
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:18 IST)
well anand what according to U should have been done to stop that man from endangering the security of the nation by such silly & potentially disastrous demands??
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:18 IST)
Is Mr. Dalvi really on?
Rajivd (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:19 IST)
Mr Dalvi, is there a chance of play being translated in languages other than Marathi & Gujarati?
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:20 IST)
Suparn are you around, if so then tell us whether this Mr. Light Font Pradeep Dalvi is for real??
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:20 IST)
PropoGandhi ... Suparn does not seem to be on ...
patkar (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:20 IST)
I you fell so strongly about you have done . Why have the play come now . Why did you not float it say 5 years back . Why so late
kiran gandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:21 IST)
Sir, What made you inspire such a controversial drama?
shrirang (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:21 IST)
Pradeep, What do you think about Nehru's role in partition ?
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:21 IST)
well I think Gandhi had become more inclined towards his principles & less towardss his country otherwise he would not have allowed its seperation
Shahezadi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:22 IST)
Folks, the light-coloured font belongs to Mr Dalvi, rest assured...
Nitin (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:23 IST)
I am not receiving any reply about my question of why did you stop the play? CAN YOU ANSWER ME PLEASE.
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:23 IST)
Mr.Dalvi: Have you just taken up the point of view of Mr. Godse for the sake of the controversy you KNEW that it will generate? Is this mostly a publicity stunt that seems to be on the verge of backfiring? Or maybe so that it will push the play to greater heights of publicity?
shrirang (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:23 IST)
Abhishek, You are right. What he did was what suited him, it was not for the good of the country
Shahezadi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:23 IST)
So, Gandhiji's life was had over a paltry sum of Rs 55 crores, eh Mr Dalvi?
ASM (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:23 IST)
Abhishek If this is true (What you are saying) then how we can call such person as a father of the nation
amit duggal (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:23 IST)
Mr Dalvi Do you think Congress is after this whole controversy??
sunil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:25 IST)
I dont't think government is interested to ban your drama. It is all Congress agitation made difference. Truly, you should have place to express your views.
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:25 IST)
Mr. Dalvi besides being a patriot, in what other ways did Nathuram Godse contribute towards independence like other Maharashtrian freedom fighters such as Lokmanya Tilak, etc ??
jro (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:25 IST)
are u against the gujrati community - is this why u have come out so strongly against gandhiji - u think he has done no good for india
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:25 IST)
abhshek, u some kind of bachha, who nvr has read Indian history... the man we glorify today as great by the virtue of killing the mahatma! what was silly and unreasonable? the fact that he sacrificed everything fot the Mother? the fact that the gnrl Heathrow commented, "I can wage a war with an army 50 million soldiers, but what do i do with 500 million unharmed patriots"? this godse of yrs was never a follower a gandhi, gopal godse needs something to backing himself up??
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:26 IST)
well cant anyone respect a man for his deeds without turning him into an icon I mean for godsakes that's the problem with us Indians either the person has to be god or shit ,hey?
Naru Shah (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:27 IST)
Dalviji, please come out openly with your view point.There are many ways & means to create your opinion.Why you have chosen Stage (drama) for that purpose?
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:28 IST)
abhishek, exactly the think u gotcha contemplate, get grey cells working and u'll find this godse and his affairs silly.
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:28 IST)
Mr. Dalvi: What is your view on the EXTENT of artistic freedom that should be allowed in a democratic country? Would you allow defaming (in the artistic sense - criticising) of the present leader? Would you allow depiction of religious symbols in, well, non-religious settings (to put it mildly)? Would you allow the Constitution to be ripped apart? Would you allow for the burning up of the national Flag? Where would you draw the line?
sadasivan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:29 IST)
what are the items in your drama that provoked the AUTHORITIES TO TAKE objections
Naru Shah (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:29 IST)
Dalviji, please come out openly with your view point.There are many ways & means to create your opinion.Why you have chosen Stage (drama) for that purpose?
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:29 IST)
well anand it seems that U just cant accept the facts hey,I am not saying that the role he played in our freedom fight was less than heroic it was a herculean task but then so were his decisions in the end-they were disastrous so baccha ur self mister dinghe
vora (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:31 IST)
or tell me how this play is going to help him
pinto (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:31 IST)
Mr Dalvi Will the recent spate of ugly demonstrations, govt. interferences lead to a curtailing artistic ventures or worse still lead to a situation where you will have cohorts of the powers that be thriving?
Shahezadi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:31 IST)
So, Gandhiji's life was had over a paltry sum of Rs 55 crores, eh Mr Dalvi?
sunil (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:32 IST)
Dalvi Why don't you put your drama live on internet. I think no one dare to stop it. Secondly public will know what exactly is there in your drama. It is comman in USA and Europe.
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:32 IST)
abhishek, i don't undersatand how many idiots we hv of ur sort in this great country of ours... u say he was great, u say his end events were bad, u glorify a murderer who does nothing for his mother, but wants to get into histroy as a patriot? god help us...
Shahezadi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:33 IST)
Mr Dalvi, since u have refused to reply to my query, here is a new one. How come Godse did not have trial by jury?
Rajivd (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:34 IST)
How are you planning to fight against the ban??
Maha (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:34 IST)
Mr Dalvi DO YOU THINK THAT IT WAS CORREECT TO ASSASINATE GANDHIJI? WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THROUGH YOUR PLAY?
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:35 IST)
shehazadi if today U were to be the Pm of India would You pakistan a sum of say 5500 crores to squander on anything they wanted?
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:35 IST)
Mr. Dalvi if Nathuram Godse was known as a patriot, how come his name does not feature with other Maharashtra greats like Lokmanya Tilak, GK Gokhale, etc in Indian history. Do you feel that whatever contribution he had towards Independence has been ignored, just because he assasinated Gandhi??
shrirang (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:35 IST)
Anand, There is no glorification of anyone - but it is just that facts are facts - Gandhiji was wrong, he was wrong. Nathuram was right ( in his opinion ) , he was right.
Maria (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:36 IST)
WILL WE EVER GET TO SEE THE PLAY MR DALVI?
ASM (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:37 IST)
Anand You are carried away too much. Question is not that who was more patriotic. Question is that Freedom of speech should be treated at par with everyone. I would like to give one example Famous book on Indian freedom struggle "FREEDOM AT MIDNIGHT" describes "Veer Savarkar" in totally wrong and useless way(I can not put those lines here as writing those line I do not want to insult Veer SAvarkar. Point in no one in demanded ban on Freedom at Midnight" Why? Simply it glorifies person from Nehru-Gandhi family. This is the yardstick we follow in India..
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:37 IST)
mister Anand this is supposed to be a debate so please use language that shows the greatness of ur country
mrugen (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:37 IST)
hi
rajans (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:38 IST)
Mr Dalvi, my congratulations. I think you brought to light the good side of Nathuram. He could have joined the other million people celebrating Independence and could have chosen to have a peaceful life. But he was really caring about India and strongly felt that Gandhiji be killed to avoid any further injustice. I strongly feel that Gandhiji & Nehru took a number of decisions which adversely affected India. They should have thought that they were taking decisions for the nation & not for their own & should have kept the nation's interest in mind. Mr Dalvi, are you planning to appeal against the ban?
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:39 IST)
I am totally with you asm . this ban is just to prteserve the greatness of the G-N family
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:39 IST)
shrirang, who cares about in his opinion righteousnes? Today Saddam Hussain feels right in introducing Bio-warfare, that means we glorify his as a patriot?? Get the facts straight sir, godse was a murderer, a criminal and nothing else...
essess (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:40 IST)
Do u think that Godse needs to be glorified for the misdeed he has done, if so, this reflects on your character, pls explain?
pinto (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:40 IST)
Why is that other books on the topic are still available when yours has been banned. Is it a case of political opportunism or is that you have really distorted facts.Or is it that the govt. beleives that half the crowd does not read plays :-)
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:40 IST)
Mr. Dalvi did you see Richard Attenborough's film on Gandhi? What do you think of it?
zorro (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:40 IST)
it is very easy to comment after 50 years that Gandhi and Nehru took number of decisions which adversely affected India
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:42 IST)
ASM, frrdom is speech for a worthy cause is good, not to glorify a murderer, a criminal...
Ramvenky (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:42 IST)
hi, Mr Dalvi.. is it true that Mr Godse ashes are still kept and not immersed
shrirang (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:42 IST)
Anand, You are right - everyone is self -righteous. But Saddam Hussain may be glorified as the greatest patriot in Iraq. Who are we to say he is not ( believe me, even I think he is not ). That is what freedom of expression means. Just because they are Gandhi and Nehru, they can not be totally exemp of criticism.
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:42 IST)
well I dont know about the earlier gandhi but indira & nehru did take a few decisions which helped them both politically & need I say Financially
amit duggal (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:43 IST)
Anand Dingre, You are right sir I support the ban on "Me Nathu Ram Godse.... " There is no way we can glorify a person , who was a murderer and did nothing for this country.
dharmatma (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:43 IST)
Every one. to understand Nathuram one should have the whole picture and history of India (Bharat) in their mind as it existed prior to 1947. All the actions of muslims were on communal basis. They were the Invaders and destroyers, cruel and brought untold misery to India. and so were Britishers. Both came from outside. Then Gandhi as a Superhuman and nothing but nobility.generosity,kindness and compassion as a leader. Taking all the magnanimity of Mahatma (his nonviolence,Ahimsa,tolerance,universality) as well as that of Hindus ( that they are not willing to fight for their coumtry B'coz they are peaceful,nonaggressive and nonvoilent people inherently and by nature as well as philosophically) mulims threatened,demanded and blackmailed Gandhi to give in to their cunning plot to divide the country on communal lines. Gandhiji was afraid of the civil war if he does not concede the demand of the muslims (already they committed communal riots in Bengal and other places. Gandhiji feared for loss of life. He aggreed for the partition with utmost reluctance.
ASM (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:44 IST)
Anand What about "freedom at midnight" Go and read this book (Chapter 8) Larry Collins & D Lapierre wrote stunning remarks against Veer Savarkar. If country can tolerate such remark under freedom of speech , whats the problem with this play??
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:44 IST)
shrirang, freedom of expression does not mean that u glorify a murderer just because he is a great man, try to reason the fact that mankind is in search and needs love, not hatred spread thru such plays in the name of freedom of speech.
pradeep (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:45 IST)
Mr. Dalvi , How you diffrentiate Gandhiji and Godse?
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:46 IST)
Anand HAVE YOU BEEN BRAIN WASHED OR ARE YOU JUST BRAIN DEAD
nagraj (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:46 IST)
If Godse is a criminal and murderer because he killed Gandhi, Gandhi is a million times more criminal, since he was the root cause for giving undue importance to that bastard Jinnah and hence partition, which resulted in killings of thousands of people.
sam (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:46 IST)
I won't think telling the story of Nathuram side is no way glorifing him, let the viewers decide.
zorro (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:46 IST)
Dalvi, I think you have every right to convey your thoughts and opinions through your play, but I think our incompetent and corrupt politicians are only going to derive political mileage thru such controversial plays.
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:47 IST)
People ... please ... no shouting ... we are all civilised ... and discussing in a civilised manner.
shrirang (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:47 IST)
My only point is that you can not say someone is great then he can not make mistakes. There is absolutely no glorification of a murderer, but he has his own story, his own thoghts, ideas , too. And what's wrong to shed some light on them , after 50 years of that incidence.
zorro (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:47 IST)
nagraj, please refrain from using expletives
fusion (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:47 IST)
Every murderer has his valid reason for his act. But we need to live in the society of values and virtues.
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:47 IST)
abhishek, we don't bother about the later gandhis, they are out of the scope of this debate and I too agree with u that they were not in the right path most times, ASM, that Veer Savarkar was a great patriot goes without question, so trying to point his mistakes is an act of redeeming the past. Godse was no patriot, he was a murderer
fusion (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:47 IST)
Every murderer has his valid reason for his act. But we need to live in the society of values and virtues.
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:48 IST)
I mean how is it that you cant tolerate any insult to Gandhi but you feel a thing about insults to other leaders & foremostly Insult to India
rudi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:48 IST)
It is known however that Gandhi was so upset on the day of liberation, that he did not even take part in the celebrations, even refused a comment to commentators. I know his heart. He was against the developments
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:49 IST)
shrirang, to acieve what? more new paper articles, more magazine covers for the person who was wrong? Instead whu don't this dalvi stage a play about the humanitarian deeds of Mother Theresa? these guys are out to swindle us sir, nothing more nothing less...
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:49 IST)
Mr. Dalvi: Nice quote ... I think it sums up your point of view quite succinctly ... "I feel that he [Godse] might have finished Gandhi but not Gandhism." Thank you!!!
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:51 IST)
did yyou know that this same Mahatma expelled Mr bose from the congress and opposed him to the hilt ,doesnt that tell you something about the fact that he cared more about his principles than his country?
amit duggal (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:51 IST)
Mr Dalvi I am still waiting for my answers??
shah (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:51 IST)
Dalvi, I think you have every right to convey your thoughts and opinions through your play, but I think our incompetent and corrupt politicians are only going to derive political mileage thru such controversial plays.
pradeep (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:51 IST)
Mr.Pradeep, I would like you to ask again that how would you differentiate Gandhiji and Godse? Rahul
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:51 IST)
abhishek, understand English Sir, the later gandhis hv nothing to do here... India is and has never been insulted by any of the true patriots...
Ramvenky (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:51 IST)
Hi Dalvi, I need to know the name of the book that Veer Savarkar wrote, when he was in prison, is it my days in prison?, if it is, then is this book available today?
Nitin (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:53 IST)
MR.Pradeep what are your future plannings
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:54 IST)
what I am anand is that many books written have insulted other patriots and have not been banned then why the exception also sir could you gandhi's stand is opposing bose?
PropoGandhi (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:54 IST)
Mr. Dalvi awaiting your comments about the film on Gandhi by Sir Richard Attenborough !!
shah (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:55 IST)
WHAT MAKE DIFRENCE WHETHER GODSE WAS RIGHT OR NOT. WE SHOULD FORGET DARK SIDE OF PAST AND LOO FORWARD FOR BRIGHT FUTURE
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:55 IST)
Mr. Dalvi: A not oft-presented side of Gandhi(ji) has been presented in the play Mahatma v/s Gandhi. Have you seen it? Do you have any views regarding that play?
rajans (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:56 IST)
PropoGandhi for you why don't you read books of Nathuram. I read Nathuram's books as well as books about Gandhiji. You can't deny that India have not achieved anything through partition, but Pakistan got more than what they deserve. This all because of mistakes of gandhiji & Neharu. For taking decision about nation you need deplomacy & not mahatma. What India got is permanent trouble at neigbour. So open your eyes & try to consider all sides of story.
Anand Dingre (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:56 IST)
abhishek, no gandhi was wrong in opposing Bose? but Bose was as great a patriot himself. the point I'm trying to make is that Godse was not patriot at all, a clear criminal. So why enact a play saying he was right, just to pull crowds, fill the pockets of the likes of Dalvi?
Sanjai Kukreti (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:56 IST)
Mr Dalvi: Didn't Salman Rushdie make some comments berating Gandhi in his recent article in TIME magazine?
pradeep (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:57 IST)
Mr. dalvi ,I am waiting for my answer Rahul
ASM (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:58 IST)
I think lets put is this way. In USA people can talk about JFK Murder, but in India we can not explore the circumstances and reasons that lead to Gandhi's murder
Sanjai Kukreti (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:58 IST)
How come no one is critical of Salman Rushdie for his recent remarks on Gandhiji?
kalpesh (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:58 IST)
Dear Mr.Dalvi & All others, Now that u have made the play, congrats for that and taking efforts for the research u have made, I am sure that u wold have made a good amount of research, because when u want to show something u require research, however, I have two things to say about the play: 1] In the first place i feel that every Indian has a right & freedom of expression, so u shld also have one, OK, and upon that these plays have been staged in Gujarati and there was no prob, I think there is some ploy against you and they all are making this all hype, I think u shld have the freedom, 2] On the second stage and totall different stage I think that what are you & all the other directors or writers of the play are trying to show, and what do u want the public to know, Do u think that we do not what happened at that time, we also know all the things, yeah i am 22 years and I do know that even if i wasn't born than too, U keep on saying that u r not trying to glorify the muderer or disgrace Gandhiji, but u just say that ,whereas u r absolutely doing that, whatever u r showing in the play the public knows that , u r just showing it from a different angle and in a way are saying that whatever Mr.godse did was good, Ok, he did have objections against the partition, but u know gandhiji accepted it before Patel & Nehru, so where was Mr.Godse when the partition took place, if he was Hindu fanatic he could have attacked Mr.Jinnah, If he was a real hindu and a fanatic one than where was he on the Direct Acttion Day, was he sleeping, and here he comes suddenly in Dec & Jan just against the 55 crore Rs, and kills a person who is Father of Nation, U know he killsa person who has done so much for the country, tell me can godse be compared with Gandhiji in terms of sacrifice made for the country, tell me was he a real HIndu fanatic, tell me what happened why didn't he kill JInnah, I am sure he was not at al concerned with the country matters, but I think there is still some thing which is hidden , Godse was a maniac and I think he had some personal greivance with Gandhiji & Congress, nor was he a Hindu fanatic, have u any answers for the above questions,,,,, kalpesh
sainarasimhan (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:59 IST)
Mr. Dalvi: I salute you! Flag burning is despicable, especially if it is supposed to be an act of political expression. Thanks!
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:59 IST)
well anand thats one wrong decision for you the other two being the decision to give Pak the money & allow partition. All these decisions cost us Indians dearly ,Please understand Several of our jawans were killed, and many were killed in parition. Isnt that enough damage bye one man??????//
Ramvenky (Tue Jul 21 1998 9:59 IST)
Rajans: i agree with you, by dividing the country, india is the big looser, Gandhiji should never have broken his fast, he should have died for the country fasting.. when he said ' that the country will be partioned over ny dead body' he should have kept his word
Abhishek (Tue Jul 21 1998 10:0 IST)
ANSWER MR. ANAND?
Sanjai Kukreti (Tue Jul 21 1998 10:0 IST)
But why isn't it acceptable to point out the inconsistencies in Gandhi's positions? After all, didn't Gandhi himself say that Muslims should turn over to Hindus mosques built on top of temples? Doesn't that indicate inconsistencies and contradictions within the man's beliefs?
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